Worst case: QB

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I think the worst case is Smith leaves and Lock stays as the incumbent #1 QB. There should be multiple veteran QB options available in free agency. It's up to management to make a good short-term solution. The long-term solution, (whenever the Seahawks choose to seek it out), is going to come from the Draft.
 

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I think the worst case is Smith leaves and Lock stays as the incumbent #1 QB. There should be multiple veteran QB options available in free agency. It's up to management to make a good short-term solution. The long-term solution, (whenever the Seahawks choose to seek it out), is going to come from the Draft.
Worst case is both Geno and Lock sign elsewhere and you’re left sorting through journeyman with limited upside.

If the front office thinks Lock has any potential, sign him now to an incentive heavy deal.
 

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Worst case is both Geno and Lock sign elsewhere and you’re left sorting through journeyman with limited upside.

If the front office thinks Lock has any potential, sign him now to an incentive heavy deal.
What if the front office doesn't think Lock has potential? The Broncos were happy to move on from him as a potential starter and the Seahawks may feel the same way. Lock can play but he makes way too many game-altering mistakes. He's a #2 QB. I'm sure he doesn't see it that way. Either way why does he sign with any team before he knows what that team is committing to at the #1 QB position?
 

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I really think the plan was always to have a bridge QB and a rookie in 2023. When Pete and John pulled the trigger on the Russ deal, it'd be shocking if this draft class wasn't part of what made that trade make sense.
 

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What if the front office doesn't think Lock has potential? The Broncos were happy to move on from him as a potential starter and the Seahawks may feel the same way. Lock can play but he makes way too many game-altering mistakes. He's a #2 QB. I'm sure he doesn't see it that way. Either way why does he sign with any team before he knows what that team is committing to at the #1 QB position?
If they don’t (entirely possible), I’d sign the QB with the highest upside who comes at a lower cost eg Huntley, Darnold, etc.

It‘s really about the drafted QB, but you’d like to be in a situation with a shot of being pleasantly surprised by the vet.

Lock’s interest would be based on a legit chance to start (I’m leaning toward Geno signing elsewhere), familiarity with the system / coaches, and a higher max payout potential than any other team is likely to offer.
 

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Anthony Richardson is the most intrigued, come to think of it, Lamar's pre-draft scout report listed accuracy as one of his weakness too. For nothing else, Richardson's legs are strong enough to run with Penny and K9 to win a few games for the team while he polishes up on his throwing accuracy?
 

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If they don’t (entirely possible), I’d sign the QB with the highest upside who comes at a lower cost eg Huntley, Darnold, etc.

It‘s really about the drafted QB, but you’d like to be in a situation with a shot of being pleasantly surprised by the vet.

Lock’s interest would be based on a legit chance to start (I’m leaning toward Geno signing elsewhere), familiarity with the system / coaches, and a higher max payout potential than any other team is likely to offer.
Maybe Lock looks at the list of top 20 QBs and tries to place himself against the QB he has the best chance of displacing, (through injury or loss of form). Maybe that QB is Smith and he follows him in free agency. Teams without a top 20 QB are likely to take 2 of the 21-48 QB group or 1 of them and a top rookie. I'm not sure a team with a Mayfield/Darnold/Mariota type #1 QB is going to go with Lock at #2 QB. Who knows? All the speculation and differing points of view are entertaining. (y)

I'm not trying to be harsh on Lock. I thought he was a top 40 or top 48 QB going into last season. It's just that a lot of the 2022 QB Draft class have been better than projected and the 2023 class also looks strong. A year on the bench has hurt Lock's profile.
 

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Maybe Lock looks at the list of top 20 QBs and tries to place himself against the QB he has the best chance of displacing, (through injury or loss of form). Maybe that QB is Smith and he follows him in free agency. Teams without a top 20 QB are likely to take 2 of the 21-48 QB group or 1 of them and a top rookie. I'm not sure a team with a Mayfield/Darnold/Mariota type #1 QB is going to go with Lock at #2 QB. Who knows? All the speculation and differing points of view are entertaining. (y)

I'm not trying to be harsh on Lock. I thought he was a top 40 or top 48 QB going into last season. It's just that a lot of the 2022 QB Draft class have been better than projected and the 2023 class also looks strong. A year on the bench has hurt Lock's profile.
Geno and Lock had a competition, Geno won, and last season we never had a game where Lock got to play and show. Only coaches knew what Lock got, and without playing coaches can't be sure too. Everything Pete has been saying lately about QBs, that they need 2nd chances etc., he could be talking about Lock too?

Lock has Geno's arm, legs, and height, the difference is between the ears??
 

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It would have been nice to see Lock play. Who knows, maybe sitting behind Geno has done him some good, like we saw with Geno sitting behind Russ. And he's younger, so he has that going for him, which is nice.
 

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if I can get Taylor Heinike pretty cheap I would be down with that.

If not try and trade for Taysom Hill.

Either way, load up the D and O-Line and roll with a cheap QB
 

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Geno and Lock had a competition, Geno won, and last season we never had a game where Lock got to play and show. Only coaches knew what Lock got, and without playing coaches can't be sure too. Everything Pete has been saying lately about QBs, that they need 2nd chances etc., he could be talking about Lock too?

Lock has Geno's arm, legs, and height, the difference is between the ears??
Lock could be good in 2023. The problem is he hasn't had a good season in 4 years and 'arguably' he's lost QB competitions to an ageing Flacco, a post-injury Bridgewater, and a 9 year under-achiever in Smith. That's very unfair but GMs are going to look at Lock's 2021 tape and what he did in the 2022 preseason. Lock wants a shot at a starter's job but GMs are probably looking at him as competition for an existing veteran #2 QB, (Love - Packers, McCoy - Cardinals, etc). If the Seahawks re-sign Smith then Lock is a viable #2 QB candidate. If they don't and they pick a QB high in the Draft I think they want a more proven QB as the bridge. Again, who knows? March will be fun.
 

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Lock could be good in 2023. The problem is he hasn't had a good season in 4 years and 'arguably' he's lost QB competitions to an ageing Flacco, a post-injury Bridgewater, and a 9 year under-achiever in Smith. That's very unfair but GMs are going to look at Lock's 2021 tape and what he did in the 2022 preseason. Lock wants a shot at a starter's job but GMs are probably looking at him as competition for an existing veteran #2 QB, (Love - Packers, McCoy - Cardinals, etc). If the Seahawks re-sign Smith then Lock is a viable #2 QB candidate. If they don't and they pick a QB high in the Draft I think they want a more proven QB as the bridge. Again, who knows? March will be fun.
Geno will go where $$$ is, and reasonably so, this is his last big pay check. I think we can start Lock if we draft a future franchise QB in this draft. If Lock play well next season, and the rookie also flashes, we can trade Lock. Lock will have trade value if he has a season or even half a season to show that he got what it takes.
 

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Geno will go where $$$ is, and reasonably so, this is his last big pay check. I think we can start Lock if we draft a future franchise QB in this draft. If Lock play well next season, and the rookie also flashes, we can trade Lock. Lock will have trade value if he has a season or even half a season to show that he got what it takes.
The problem is Lock can look like a dumpster fire at times and Seattle fans aren't known for their patience or quiet acceptance of dumpster fire play. If you're prepared to play a high pick rookie even if he isn't ready then fair enough, but the situation could get really ugly - really quickly. If the rookie is NFL ready then no worries. Darnold, Mariota, Bridgewater, Heinicke, etc would be safer insurance choices and probably not a lot more expensive.

If Lock looks good through the 1st half of the season the Seahawks wouldn't trade him. If he didn't look good other teams wouldn't trade for him. I don't see a trade scenario...still just conjecture on my part.
 

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I wouldn't mind taking the QB that threw 58 TDs and 5 picks his last two years in the SEC, wouldn't cost much either.
 

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You all realize that Pete and John Talking QB is about leveraging for a trade, if we talk QB interest teams may offer up more to move up. Lock just barely lost out and had a full season here to get right, our offense doesn't need a world beater at QB just a point guard to run the offense and keep a defense honest with a deep ball setup with runs and underneath patterns. Teams wanting to grab a QB ahead of us will push down DE's to us.
 

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You all realize that Pete and John Talking QB is about leveraging for a trade, if we talk QB interest teams may offer up more to move up. Lock just barely lost out and had a full season here to get right, our offense doesn't need a world beater at QB just a point guard to run the offense and keep a defense honest with a deep ball setup with runs and underneath patterns. Teams wanting to grab a QB ahead of us will push down DE's to us.
That sounds good, except that during our only sb win, we pretty much had a world beater qb in his prime. Not sure the average point guard qb is enough today, given the competition. Imo, we need someone who can take over a game if necessary and will the team to a win, and who really tilts the field.
 

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Good points, War
Is Geno the type of QB that can take over a game when it counts? That's a big maybe. They don't need check down Charlie, or a guy who just has a high completion percentage. They need someone with ice in his veins with the game on the line. But, I'm sure I'll get blasted for have even a little bit of doubt that Geno is a top tier QB.
 
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