Astros stealing signs

[Crizilla]

I have no issue with coaches and players stealing signs without technology. Every team tries to do it especially with a man on second base. But it sure looked like Altuve was wearing a device. Crazy

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Altuve denies he wore a buzzer.........

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/us/astro ... index.html

 

[Sports Hernia]

MLB has got a huge scandal on their hands. More stuff is going to come out.
The players involved need to be suspended for a substantial period of time and the Astros need to have their title stripped.

Looking at and hearing the video, the umpires have to do a better job at putting a stop to the sounds that are un-natural (see banging of garbage can or bat rack).

 

[Maulbert]

I read some asshole post on Imgur that it didn't matter that they cheated because they were still the most talented roster. I asked him, "Then why did they need to cheat?" The response I got? "They had to keep up with the other teams cheating."

JFC.

 

[2_0_6]

I really wonder if the MLB with do anything significant about this if it truly is a league wide issue.

 

[Bobblehead]

Guess there is some damning evidence concerning the Redsox as well.. they are next.

 

[Uncle Si]

Counter point to potential titles being stripped, as more news comes out. This may have been going on at a level using technology since the 80s. And In 2017, when they began executing this scheme, the Astros improved their team hitting for average by a miniscule .035 points — 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1116011

 

[JGfromtheNW]

Hmmmm. Looking at team stats between 2016 and 2017, the Houston batting average for the team jumped from .247 to .282.

That's a pretty big jump IMO.

Edit: That's going from 24th (2016) to 1st (2017) in the league.

 

[Uncle Si]

Hmmmm. Looking at team stats between 2016 and 2017, the Houston batting average for the team jumped from .247 to .282.

That's a pretty big jump IMO.

Edit: That's going from 24th (2016) to 1st (2017) in the league.

Article above says. 035...

So which is it?

 

[Maulbert]

Hmmmm. Looking at team stats between 2016 and 2017, the Houston batting average for the team jumped from .247 to .282.

That's a pretty big jump IMO.

Edit: That's going from 24th (2016) to 1st (2017) in the league.

Article above says. 035...

So which is it?

Math is your friend.

.247 + .035 = .282

.035 is huge for a whole team.

 

[Uncle Si]

I hate math...

 

[Crizilla]

Wow I just had a total change of mind. I honestly don't care the "astros were stealing signs" since teams always try to do that its part of the game. Hitters still gotta hit. Hell. give batters an ear piece. I don't care. Defensive players in the NFL can have an ear piece. This whole thing is a joke blown out of proportion by the media (mainly NY and LA fans in the media).

btw Kershaw has always been mediocre in the playoffs. To blame one team "cheating" or not for his struggles is rather silly.

 

[Ruminator]

I have four issues with cheating. One, rules are rules and "everyone does it" and "teams/players have been doing it since..." do not make it OK. Two, cheating robs other teams/players who play ethically of potential accomplishments, and in turn, robs the fans, the team's city, and the sport. Three, it tells our youth that cheating is OK if you don't get caught. And four, if the league fails to discipline teams/players who cheat, is there any point to following the sport anymore?

 

[Msfann]

Ban every team caught cheating from the postseason for 5 years, hold a cheater draft and the worst teams in the league get to pick their roster apart and the cheating team still has to pay the contracts.

Let's see teams cheat after that.

 

[Passepartout]

First it was Houston, now going to Boston, then the NY Mets team. It seems to be only beginning the scandal. Dodgers that played and lost to the World Series to Astros and Red Sox. Deserves to have those titles reinstated!

 

[Sports Hernia]

First it was Houston, now going to Boston, then the NY Mets team. It seems to be only beginning the scandal. Dodgers that played and lost to the World Series to Astros and Red Sox. Deserves to have those titles reinstated!

Nope. They didn’t win them. Just vacate the title(s).

 

[Seahawk Sailor]

Before I had my first drum set at age six I pounded on metal TV trays. I cheated?....Stupid ridiculous implications.

This aged well. 8)

 

[Seahaaaawks]

lol low blow...

 

[Threedee]

Altuve denies he wore a buzzer.........

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/17/us/astro ... index.html

The awesome thing about it is that Altuve could not have been wearing a buzzer, but, the overwhelming amount of evidence against the team means that no one will believe him.

 

[Threedee]

Wow I just had a total change of mind. I honestly don't care the "astros were stealing signs" since teams always try to do that its part of the game. Hitters still gotta hit. Hell. give batters an ear piece. I don't care. Defensive players in the NFL can have an ear piece. This whole thing is a joke blown out of proportion by the media (mainly NY and LA fans in the media).

btw Kershaw has always been mediocre in the playoffs. To blame one team "cheating" or not for his struggles is rather silly.

I think both things can be true. Kershaw clearly blows in the postseason, and the Astros cheated enough to advance farther than they should have, thus stealing two pennants and a WS title.