John63":114o7bel said:
PNW":114o7bel said:
One thing I’ll say about Russ is he definitely has been the most durable QB since he’s been in the league, that definitely counts for something. If he can consistently hit the short passes and take what elite defenses give him I think he’ll turn a corner. Brady, Rodgers and Mahomes make you pay if you try to blitz or sit in 2 deep zone. They take over games and can audible into formations that strike the defenses weaknesses.
Yeah i mean we have never seen Wilson do that. OH wait we have.
Can you point to a period when he consistently executed an effective short passing game?
Empirical evidence please. Love Russ but I think there are two camps on this board. One that blames russ for everything, another that rarely finds fault in him but when they do, still find a way to scapegoat Pete, playcalling, or a weak supporting cast. All with tge only evidence presented being anecdotal.
One can post videos and game clips from this year alone of Russ literally not making the right presnap read to adjust to pressure, and the result being a sack. Or not changing the play to a hot in that situation, and taking a sack. Or there being a hot read and nit throwing the ball and taking a sack. Or not getting rid of the ball, and running himself into a sack.
There's enough REAL evidence there that there shoukd be a valid question as to why these things happen consistently in year 9. And whatever culpability there is on the part of Pete or the OC for lack of creativity goes out the window in a situation where in the context of a play it is plainly obvious that a read by the qb, an audible by the qb, or a line adjustment by the qb, or the qb getting the ball out to a wr who is wide open in front of him would yield a successful gain and not a sack, int, or failed first down attempt.
These instances I'm referring to ARE NOT those instances where a call was sent in that just didn't make sense. Or when an offensive lineman just whiffed on a block or a rb failed an assignment.
Had anyone ever considered that maybe Russ is incredibly GIFTED and also inexplicably CHALLENGED? He can freelance and make incredible plays on his own, can succeed at times ' on schedule ' when the offense is multiple, and can threaten on the ground and in the air. But when asked to just step to the line and call adjustments, make multiple level reads and get the ball out, that maybe he struggles with that?
And that maybe THAT is as much the reason for the early game struggles and late game rallies as anything else?
And maybe it's also the reason he never has sustained success. 2016 saw he and Baldwin get hot for a 4 game stretch and then go cold. And for the last 3 years he's been in the mvp conversation early in the season and then slowly regress.
It's not crazy at this point to begin to assume part of the reason is him. All you have to do is look at film.
And if you take that as a possibility, and assume he's just not comfortable with certain plays- short plays over the middle, that maybe THATS why the plays you see the OC sending in involve 3 wrs running long routes to clear the clutter underneath with a TE or RB or Lockett filling the vacated area. This happened constantly this year and I don't tbink it was an accident. It's a valid way to attack the short middle if you aren't going to run faster hitting routes.
Yes, Pete is flawed for time management, challenges, and sometimes stubbornly adhering to an approach ( although that stubborn attitude yielded dividends on D this year when folks were calling for his head)
Yes, Schotty could have been more diverse in his calls.
But Mister Wilson at times performed like a rookie in situations that he controlled fully.
QB play needs to be much better.
Playcalling needs to be better
Pete needs to try to be a lot smarter on gameday.
