SoulfishHawk
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Polk738":1rsxz8ia said:Mike Upati and Brandon Shell being out obviously doesn't help against Aaron Donald, he dominated the line again-nothing new there-but you can see Russ is still making some very questionable throws-he nearly had ANOTHER INT with that quick throw to Lockett and yes the David Moore throw and catch was awesome but IIRC it was on another 3rd and short yardage situation. I consider these "hero" ball throws in these situations because instead of working to convert the 3rd down in short yards Russ still feels the need to go for the hard throws-it's exciting and frustrating at the same time.
Sgt. Largent":2yrocojh said:SoulfishHawk":2yrocojh said:Funny how if he doesn't have huge stats (which has NEVER been the way Pete wants him to run the offense) then he somehow isn't on the level of these other guys. I'm not arguing that he's overall having as good a year as Mahomes or Lord Rodgers. But, look at the offenses those guys are being handed by the play calling etc. Also, pass blocking is iffy at best almost every time he is "struggling"
He has been running for his life his entire career.
He's over 70 percent, 4000+ and 38 touchdowns, and has lead his team to an 11-4 record.
I bet MOST fanbases would love to have a QB who is "struggling" like this guy.
I'm the one saying Russell isn't struggling, what we've seen this year IS Russell.
Also why I say he's not on the same level and Mahomes or Rodgers, but he's close enough for me to thank baby Jesus every day that he fell to us in the 3rd round and became our Hall of Fame caliber franchise QB for hopefully 15+ years.
Others want to blame Pete, and they're wrong. This is who Russell is, and there's nothing wrong with having a clutch QB that can win by putting up 300 yards and 4 TD's, and he can win with only 150 yards and 1 TD.
No better evidence then what he's done this year. In his prime with the full command of the playbook he couldn't carry the offense when he had no RB's and the defense knew how to defend him.
8 Int's
under 70% completion percentage
4 losses
Appyhawk":2zhgtksh said:I prefer to see that Russ is trending up, even while playing vs top rated defenses. His QB rating for last half vs Ram was back up to something like 135.
But the real improvement is reduction in turnovers. Winning the TO battle is crucial to our chances.
seabowl":2kkmhub8 said:His elusiveness is just not there anymore. What made him truly special was his unearthly ability to escape pressure and make something great out of absolutely nothing.
Haven't seen anything like that in some time from him.
Aros":1ey38f4y said:seabowl":1ey38f4y said:His elusiveness is just not there anymore. What made him truly special was his unearthly ability to escape pressure and make something great out of absolutely nothing.
Haven't seen anything like that in some time from him.
I agree. His escapability was one of his greatest assets earlier in his career. His pirouettes were a thing of beauty and his speed to outrun defenders was well known. He is a bit thicker than he used to be but how much of that is purposeful or just age I am not sure. I do recall one year he added bulk to help with all the hits he was taking but the next year he dropped a few because he realized it slowed him down too much.
One thing we can all agree on is his durability. To my knowledge he has never missed a single game in his soon-to-be 10-year career. That is remarkable, especially when you take into consideration the hits and sacks he's taken. But he is a flat out maestro when it comes to avoiding injury on the run. Outside of that season he was playing hurt with a bum ankle and knee I believe, he has been incredibly blessed to avoid a major injury that sidelines him.
Sometimes I feel I am asking too much of Russell. One, because he's set us up to expect sheer excellence from him so when he appears human and normal, we feel something is off. Two, because I forget this isn't 2012-2017 Russell where he was at the top of his game from a speed and escapability standpoint. A decade in this league, I don't care who you are, you are not going to look exactly the same from your earliest years to current. No matter your nutrition, your commitment to health, exercise, etc. Father Time, again, remains undefeated.
Is Russ struggling? Eh, I don't really think so. Was he struggling a month ago? Absolutely. He threw 10 picks in a 4-5 week period if I recall. Yes, that's struggling. I think he's found his confidence in recent weeks and I think that continues. How far it takes us, who knows.
What I do know is that I am forever grateful to have Russell Wilson as our quarterback for all these years and I hope several more. He's been nothing short of a gift to this franchise and I hope to be around to celebrate his speech in Canton one fine day.
Aros":2gpfyvtg said:seabowl":2gpfyvtg said:His elusiveness is just not there anymore. What made him truly special was his unearthly ability to escape pressure and make something great out of absolutely nothing.
Haven't seen anything like that in some time from him.
I agree. His escapability was one of his greatest assets earlier in his career. His pirouettes were a thing of beauty and his speed to outrun defenders was well known. He is a bit thicker than he used to be but how much of that is purposeful or just age I am not sure. I do recall one year he added bulk to help with all the hits he was taking but the next year he dropped a few because he realized it slowed him down too much.
One thing we can all agree on is his durability. To my knowledge he has never missed a single game in his soon-to-be 10-year career. That is remarkable, especially when you take into consideration the hits and sacks he's taken. But he is a flat out maestro when it comes to avoiding injury on the run. Outside of that season he was playing hurt with a bum ankle and knee I believe, he has been incredibly blessed to avoid a major injury that sidelines him.
Sometimes I feel I am asking too much of Russell. One, because he's set us up to expect sheer excellence from him so when he appears human and normal, we feel something is off. Two, because I forget this isn't 2012-2017 Russell where he was at the top of his game from a speed and escapability standpoint. A decade in this league, I don't care who you are, you are not going to look exactly the same from your earliest years to current. No matter your nutrition, your commitment to health, exercise, etc. Father Time, again, remains undefeated.
Is Russ struggling? Eh, I don't really think so. Was he struggling a month ago? Absolutely. He threw 10 picks in a 4-5 week period if I recall. Yes, that's struggling. I think he's found his confidence in recent weeks and I think that continues. How far it takes us, who knows.
What I do know is that I am forever grateful to have Russell Wilson as our quarterback for all these years and I hope several more. He's been nothing short of a gift to this franchise and I hope to be around to celebrate his speech in Canton one fine day.
John63":tm3w1jna said:Here is the reality
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports...questions_12_28_2020&utm_term=Registered User
". Has the offense found its winning formula for the playoffs?
Jude: For the most part, yes. The Let Russ Cook era, as brief as it was, was thrilling — there’s no denying that. And I understand some of the consternation from a particular faction of the fan base that’s screaming for Carroll to again give Wilson more freedom. But Carroll does not view offensive football in a vacuum; he does not see defensive football in a vacuum, either. When he talks about “balance” and a “complementary” style, he is talking about his offense and his defense helping each other out. We saw a prime example of that not happening in the Buffalo game, when Seattle’s four offensive turnovers put its defense in peril. Carroll is not going back to that. The Seahawks’ September offensive surge was, in hindsight, a mirage. There was nothing normal about the buildup to the 2020 season for anyone — limited practices, no preseason, new testing routines, etc., and offenses around the league had the upper hand early. Seattle’s offensive success in the first half of the season created unrealistic expectations. Defenses have adjusted; they’re making it harder for the Seahawks to execute those big plays downfield — the loss to the Giants being a prime example of that. Wilson tried three deep passes Sunday; the throws for Metcalf and Tyler Lockett fell incomplete. The 45-yard pass to David Moore was the play of the game on offense. You can call Carroll’s approach conservative, but you have to also acknowledge it’s a proven approach in the playoffs — and one the Seahawks used to win a playoff-type game Sunday.
Condotta: Yes. True, it took a little while for Seattle’s offense to find its footing Sunday. But as Carroll noted later, a big factor was the Seahawks not turning the ball over — one of just five times this year Seattle has done that. All have been wins. And I think some of the “slow start” was in part not wanting to make a game-turning mistake. As long as Seattle was within one possession of tying or taking the lead, the Seahawks were going to preach not screwing things up on offense, especially early. You saw Wilson get more aggressive in the second half and that was by design. True, Seattle averaged just 4.8 yards per play, lowest of the season other than the loss against the Giants. But that rose to 6.3 in the second half when Seattle had five of its seven longest gains, with Wilson completing 10 of 13 passes for 141 yards against statistically the NFL’s best pass defense. In Carroll’s perfect world Seattle might rush for more than 95 yards. But Seattle had 4.0 per attempt, and Chris Carson had 21 yards on three attempts on the final touchdown drive that moved the ball and kept the clock running (or forced L.A. to use its timeouts). It felt like the running game was just enough to make a difference, which is what Seattle will need in the postseason."
You will not see many if any 300+ 4td games. You will see more of the 200 yards 2-3 tds high complt % games. Which is what we got this last game, adn what PC wants
So the if that is not elite to you then take it up with PC. And FYi going by PCs definition Wilson was elite this last game.
That's exactly right and why the LRC stuff made me cringe all off season. It was a disaster waiting to happen and it even sounds like Russ bought into to it to some degree which was concerning to me. Even those other QBs that everything thinks of don't do those things as often as fans think they do. They see highlights and think every game those other QB's have comes with a stat line like Russ's first 3-4 games. It just doesn't happen for a majority of games over a season for any QB really. Some are setup to do it more often like Mahomes with all of those weapons and even they have mediocre to crap games along the way.Sgt. Largent":3jcwf4jj said:Spin Doctor":3jcwf4jj said:Russ has been off, he's not seeing receivers that he normally sees, and his accuracy can be shaky at times. His decision making has also been perplexing. I think he's in his own head at the moment. Since the Buffalo game he's been off, he hasn't been as sharp as he normally has been -- even in the game manager sort of role.
Game
Rams 62.5 CMP% 93.9 QBR 1 TD
Not the Skins 66.7 CMP% 73.2 QBR 1 TD
Jets 77.8 CMP% 122.6 QBR 4 TD's
Giants 62.8 CMP% 78.0 QBR 1 TD
Eagles 71.0 CMP% 102.9 QBR 1 TD
Cardinals 82.1 CMP% 119.8 QBR 2 TD's
Out of these six games, only the Giants game would I say Russell struggled or "been off."
Efficient, accurate, timely plays when it matters. That's his game...............and after 10 years anyone thinking he should be more week in and week out? That's on you, because that's not who he is as a QB.
At times like we saw early in the year? Sure, but that's not ever been his game. What we've seen in the last 5-6 weeks is.