Fade":35l49p9j said:
You can't play the --> Packers beat the Packers CARD
Why? You guys do. You play it for the lost Super Bowl (both lost Super Bowls) and you play that card for the upcoming season stating that no team is a real threat, just your own team not playing well.
I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU if the Packers had dominated in most stats. But came up short on the score board.
Seattle Beat GB in the NFCCG in:
Scoreboard
Yards
Yards per play
Yards passing
Yards rushing
1st Downs
3rd Down % (very telling Seattle 8-16, GB 3-14)
4th Down %
Redzone!? (this can't be right lol)
Defense (All Numbers inverse)
Special Teams
Penalty Yards
GB Beat Seatte in the NFCCG in:
Turnovers
and Time Of Possesion by :50 sec
WHO OUT PLAYED WHO? According to you it was the Packers. they just beat themselves. :roll:
Green Bay dominated almost every category up until the last 5-10 min. of football when our team quit. Honestly, we just stopped playing football and made a tremendous amount of foolish mistakes. Those guys have been cut from the team. We dominated 50-55 minutes of football with a QB who was about 50%, at best.
The delicious irony is the Hawks beat the Hawks, they gave it away 5 times, but they overcame it.
See, you just played the "we beat ourselves card" instead of giving credit to the other team. How ironic.
Seattle hung in there and played a great OT and put the game away when given the chance. It is something Seattle has been known for since the arrival of Pete Carroll. But they never would have had the chance if Green Bay had not quit. We gave that game away. Especially our pathetic Special Teams and that bonehead Bostic.
Fade":35l49p9j said:
The Packers are actually better than that due to Clay Matthews switching to ILB mid season. I think they were 12th ish? The rest of the season after they made that Key Switch.
It didn't help them in the NFCCG though when they surrendered 194 rushing yards to the Hawks.
*edit* I can't find the exact stats when Clay made the switch inside but it did improve.
Here is an interesting Q & A though. The 1st Question confirming my original thoughts in this thread.
http://gnb.247sports.com/Bolt/Packers-QA-The-Jury-Is-Still-Out-on-Run-Defense-37498926
It was week 9 against the Bears as I recall. Right after the bye week. Green Bays run defense was soft for several reasons before the switch. Namely, Capers loves to play a lot Nickel (Big Nickel), our DT's with the exception of Daniels played poorly (Guion missed all of camp and got off to a very slow start. Raji suffered a season ending injury and Boyd and Pennell are pretty raw.) and our ILB's were atrocious. Hawk and Jones were terrible all year, Lattimore got hurt and Barrington was a 7th round pick and green as grass. The fix was to move Clay into the middle and pair him up Barrington who is a bit slow at times but plays the run very well.
In the game against Seattle (NFCCG), the usual suspects were terrible (Hawk, Jones, even Guion) and Seattle did a lot of damage at the end of the game when Clay was out with an injury. I expect Lynch to have a great game against us because he is tough to bring down and our corners are not known to be physical. In other words, Lynch loves to run against teams like Green Bay. Lynch is the best RB in the NFL for a reason.
With that said, the Packers have been playing against Adrian Peterson twice a year for a long time and while he has a good amount of success against us, we still routinely thrash them. They have only beaten us once out of the last 11 meetings. This season, they are no threat and nor are the Bears or the Lions. We'll run over them and win another NFC North title.
Fade":35l49p9j said:
Yeah PackerNation. How are the Packers the best team in the NFL?
I like the guys on our roster better than any team in the NFL. Our offense is going to be very solid again this year. We have the reigning MVP (2 time MVP), our OL is still intact and is great at pass blocking but suspect in the run game. Lacy is a great RB and we have the best trio of WR's in the NFL in Nelson, Cobb and Adams. Janis will challenge for the 4th spot and the new WR Montgomery will lead the PR/KR game.
The dead weight of Hawk, B. Jones and Bostic is gone and while we lost T. Williams and house, we have 2 pretty good rookies that can step up and Hayward can switch from slot outside CB. Our ILB's will be much improved with Barrington and CM3 in the middle and Peppers still looks fantastic in OTA's. Elliot and Perry will both see action at OLB and I think could be primed for a decent year. Raji could be the best addition and he is back at NT where he has had his best success.
Overall, I think we will win 12-13 games and win the Super Bowl this year. I think we have the best team in the NFL and had it last year if we didn't have that critical injury to Rodgers and the impending implosion as we were packing for the Super Bowl instead of finishing out the NFCCG.
You asked my opinion and I gave it to you.
I think Seattle has an excellent team but far from unbeatable. Your defense should still be in the top 3, if not #1 overall again and I like the addition of Jimmy Graham at TE. Wilson should be solid but the OL took a step backwards when Unger left. Your WR's will have a new addition but he is a rookie and who knows how well he will learn and adapt to the playbook this year. He might be great or he might need a few years of seasoning.
I don't like the depth on Seattle when it comes to replacing your starting defenders or lineman. A key injury and your season could be over. You lose Wilson, you will lose about 8-10 games especially if it is early in the season.
Seattle is easily a top 3 team in the NFL if not #1. It will not surprise me if they make it back to the Super Bowl this year. I still think Green Bay is the team to beat but we have not even made it to training camp yet and as we all know, a lot can happen in the course of a season.
