RussJames
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MontanaHawk05":ge7jwuw7 said:Definitely not seeing the AC hype. That dancing behind the line will prove fatal once he meets NFL starters who know how to contain and tackle. Needs to read and go. That's our system.
RussJames":2kc63jry said:MontanaHawk05":2kc63jry said:Definitely not seeing the AC hype. That dancing behind the line will prove fatal once he meets NFL starters who know how to contain and tackle. Needs to read and go. That's our system.
To be fair to him, he has the acceleration. Not at the same level as Rawls and CMike, but it's definitely there.
Seafan":2kc63jry said:Deepest RB group in team history. If Spencer Ware can be as successful as he is then AC will have a solid career as well.
CM is going to be paid next year. Having AC and Prosise will definitely keep the RB group strong. Exciting group.
kearly":o1c3i5yb said:Collins has a very good 3rd and 4th step. Michael and Rawls have an elite first step. That's why Collins looked utterly inept on every play he ran other than the ones where he was taking his 3rd step at the hand off.
jdemps":35tzynpy said:kearly":35tzynpy said:Collins has a very good 3rd and 4th step. Michael and Rawls have an elite first step. That's why Collins looked utterly inept on every play he ran other than the ones where he was taking his 3rd step at the hand off.
So that would project AC as bad in read option. Not sure if there's tape on this yet but it would make sense.
kearly":3hxrrs5d said:That's why Collins looked utterly inept on every play he ran other than the ones where he was taking his 3rd step at the hand off.
kearly":3hxrrs5d said:, and Collins finished at exactly 4 yards per carry, thanks to about 5 big runs he had on 18 attempts.
TwistedHusky":3l5wogba said:The biggest mistakes teams make again and again is taking a HOF player and then bringing in someone that "reminds" them of this player. I
Guys like Lynch or Largent or Walt are a rare breed. You cannot just take someone with a similar (or seemingly similar) body type and expect them to get you "almost as good". Marsh is "almost" sacking QBs, that does not mean anything in the results column.
On AC, I am pretty good judge of RB talent. Not great, but good enough to usually be able to spot greatness.
I remember watching Curtis Martin as a college player and just being blown away. I still think Clements from Wisconsin is going to be better than Gordon as an NFL player. But you can see where my biases lie, I like quickness and balance. Then power and speed. Size is way down there, right near "looks like Ron Dayne".
So plodding, non-quick RBs are not guys I usually see a lot of potential in. I am trying to hope that the reason AC look slow is that he is still injured.
Nothing I see says he is going to be great, but I am hoping to be wrong.
However, hoping someone ends up being just like your last HOF guy is a fool's errand.
Again, I would love to be wrong, have AC Fan be right and be looking at "The Next Great Seattle RB".
But my eyes just are not telling me that is the case yet.
TwistedHusky":297zagjd said:On AC, I am pretty good judge of RB talent. Not great, but good enough to usually be able to spot greatness.
Nothing I see says he is going to be great, but I am hoping to be wrong.
However, hoping someone ends up being just like your last HOF guy is a fool's errand.
Again, I would love to be wrong, have AC Fan be right and be looking at "The Next Great Seattle RB".
But my eyes just are not telling me that is the case yet.
McGruff":297zagjd said:I agree that Collins ceiling is pretty low due to his lack of speed and shiftiness.
King Dog":297zagjd said:I think we're going to be very lucky if Collins ever turns into a Spencer Ware. Both are slow, but Ware has great vision.