Looks like it's no Percy for this game. (Speculation)

[kidhawk]

The protocol controls this. He can't even practice until tomorrow if cleared today. If he works out tomorrow and does OK, he could still be in on Sunday.

I'd be leaning more to the 'not' side if this was a road game and they had to miss a workout due to travel.

Could he practice in a limited capacity today?

I thought I heard he was seeing the independent specialist today. From what kid said above, maybe not. But if he isn't cleared, he probably can't practice, even in a limited sense.

If (and we still don't know as far as I can tell) our doctors cleared him yesterday, then he'd see an independent specialist today. Whether he practiced or not would depend on what time he saw the specialist and IF they also clear him. It's an EXTREME longshot at this point that he practices today. It's just a regular longshot for tomorrow and I'd say the odds are not favorable for Sunday, but really it's all a crap shoot. Only the doctors will know for sure when he's ready to go. Even Percy himself may not know for sure until the doctors do the testing.

 

[AROS]

Clayton doesn't know anymore than we do at the moment. I will wait to hear what PC has to say what the doctors had to say.

 

[amill87]

Clayton is normally pretty good but every once awhile he trusts what he "hears" and presents things as facts.

Probably should update this thread title too. Throwing around a definitive Harvin won't play on the main forum on an excepted news day isn't cool.

 

[seahawk12thman]

Given the importance of this game Clayton's opinion is speculative and irresponsible unless he heard it from a leaked source. Given the stakes of this game, I have to think all Seahawk personnel have a gag order until it is formally announced by the team.

 

[Basis4day]

Can one of the doctors that post here explain why even non contact practice is against the "protocol"?

Why can't he play catch with Russell if it doesn't involve contact?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... oncussions

All you need to do is read the league rules. What he can do is entirely based on what stage of the protocol he is in, which the team is not obligated to tell the fans.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I listen to Clayton all the time, he's about an inaccurate as it comes with predicting stuff......in fact Groz routinely flips him crap over his bad predictions.

Bottom Line: today is the day we'll find out something definitive on Harvin. If he plays Sunday, he HAS to be cleared to resume practice, because if there's one thing Pete's consistent with, it's if you don't get in a couple good days of practice, you don't play.

 

[NorCalSeahawk]

I'll wait till Carroll (and the doctors) says he's OUT, nothing else matters.

 

[James in PA]

Clayton is just giving *his* guess on the situation. His feeling about it is far from fact. This is the NFC Championship Game. I'm sure the Hawks and Harvin will do everything possible to get Harvin playing in this game.

 

[CallMeADawg]

I just love the fact that everyone is so concerned now and really wants to see Percy play. This is a much different tone than earlier in the year. My gut tells me that Percy will play in this game.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Which if you want to be an optimist is good news. If the team doctors didn't clear him yesterday, why would he be seeing a doctor?? So many questions, so few answers LOL

The way the concussion protocol works.. basically is Harvin has to do a series of steps before he can practice. If he wasn't cleared by team doctors yesterday, then he has to see them again today.. which pushes the independent doc meeting to tomorrow.. meaning he probably wouldn't play since he wouldn't practice all week.

So in other words, if he was cleared by team doctors.. I'd say his chances of playing are very good at this point. But I haven't seen anything saying he was or was not cleared by them.

 

[lukerguy]

1) we already have 3 threads on harvin
2) we already have a specific thread on this Clayton speculation.
3) it means absolutely nothing at this point
4) I want to jump off a bridge every time I seen a new thread with whining and speculation.

That's it.

 

[brimsalabim]

Can one of the doctors that post here explain why even non contact practice is against the "protocol"?

Why can't he play catch with Russell if it doesn't involve contact?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... oncussions

All you need to do is read the league rules. What he can do is entirely based on what stage of the protocol he is in, which the team is not obligated to tell the fans.

thanks for the link for what the protocol is but I'm asking why the protocol is what it is.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Can one of the doctors that post here explain why even non contact practice is against the "protocol"?

Why can't he play catch with Russell if it doesn't involve contact?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... oncussions

All you need to do is read the league rules. What he can do is entirely based on what stage of the protocol he is in, which the team is not obligated to tell the fans.

thanks for the link for what the protocol is but I'm asking why the protocol is what it is.

Because the league is tired of settling for 600 million dollar lawsuits.

With how serious the topic of concussions have gotten, the league isn't even going to let players tie their own shoes until they're medically cleared.

 

[CANHawk]

Can one of the doctors that post here explain why even non contact practice is against the "protocol"?

Why can't he play catch with Russell if it doesn't involve contact?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... oncussions

All you need to do is read the league rules. What he can do is entirely based on what stage of the protocol he is in, which the team is not obligated to tell the fans.

i'm no doctor, but i watched, like, every season of ER... my guess would be that even non contact practice isnt allowed because all of the running, jumping, etc would have a tendency to make your brain bounce around inside your skull and thus not allow the swelling to go down. limiting the action completely for those days likely gives the best chance of recovery.

 

[Russ Willstrong]

Jon Clayton has a right to have his WRONG opinions. The guy is good but far from perfect.

 

[CallMeADawg]

Ian Rapoport and Jon Clayton both assumed Percy was going to IR, and we saw how accurate that was. These guys are like meteorologists trying to predict weather patterns on Saturn. Unless they are told straight up, they have no clue what they are talking about and pull something out of their nether regions as a response.

They would look less credibly saying "I have no idea" all season long, so I give them a pass.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Ian Rapoport and Jon Clayton both assumed Percy was going to IR, and we saw how accurate that was. These guys are like meteorologists trying to predict weather patterns in the northwest........

FIFY

 

[CallMeADawg]

Ian Rapoport and Jon Clayton both assumed Percy was going to IR, and we saw how accurate that was. These guys are like meteorologists trying to predict weather patterns in the northwest........

FIFY

LOL! Having grown up here (White Center, holla!) I would agree with you if we were talking about long term success rate. They have actually gotten quite good the last 5 years or so.

 

[General Manager]

This is the NFC Championship game I think he will play.

 

[mikeak]

This is the NFC Championship game I think he will play.

Also not relevant. Sorry not attacking you but the game itself doesn't matter - superbowl or preseason.

The Doctor's are separated from the team - the decision to clear him is separate from the player, the team etc. It is a medical opinion

The only time the player / team calls it is if the doctor clears him and then it is elected that he does NOT play.....