Kolsteseahawks
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Based on the logic everyone is using, nick Foles is the best QB in the league
RolandDeschain":36gbcno7 said:Whoops, I just checked, Hernandez had been out for a month until that game but Gronk did play. Weird, thought he hadn't; oh well, I was wrong. Either way, though, Welker's the big reason they got to pass a lot on us that day.
Funny, I'd agree with that statement...using your logic.Kolsteseahawks":w2vpgw34 said:Based on the logic everyone is using, nick Foles is the best QB in the league
Kolsteseahawks":2i7byhki said:Based on the logic everyone is using, nick Foles is the best QB in the league
Look at my previous replies, passer rating is not a good barometer for measuring the talent of a QB, and Brady is older now and not as good as he used to be, luck has passed him upkobebryant":25w46bsl said:Kolsteseahawks":25w46bsl said:Based on the logic everyone is using, nick Foles is the best QB in the league
Nope. Body of work isn't big enough.
But Luck's isn't big enough to put him ahead of Brady; especially when considering that his career QB rating is slightly lower than David Garrard's.
Look at the resume objectively, take Luck's name and draft position off, and it is merely decent-to-good.
Kolsteseahawks":2ndinsg1 said:Look at my previous replies, passer rating is not a good barometer for measuring the talent of a QB, and Brady is older now and not as good as he used to be, luck has passed him upkobebryant":2ndinsg1 said:Kolsteseahawks":2ndinsg1 said:Based on the logic everyone is using, nick Foles is the best QB in the league
Nope. Body of work isn't big enough.
But Luck's isn't big enough to put him ahead of Brady; especially when considering that his career QB rating is slightly lower than David Garrard's.
Look at the resume objectively, take Luck's name and draft position off, and it is merely decent-to-good.
Kolsteseahawks":37a8c0ms said:Look at my previous replies, passer rating is not a good barometer for measuring the talent of a QB, and Brady is older now and not as good as he used to be, luck has passed him upkobebryant":37a8c0ms said:Kolsteseahawks":37a8c0ms said:Based on the logic everyone is using, nick Foles is the best QB in the league
Nope. Body of work isn't big enough.
But Luck's isn't big enough to put him ahead of Brady; especially when considering that his career QB rating is slightly lower than David Garrard's.
Look at the resume objectively, take Luck's name and draft position off, and it is merely decent-to-good.
His evaluation model is based primarily on the ability of QBs to slobber all over the junk of media analysts.Spounge84":1wtc76z4 said:So what would be a good way to evaluate these players? Because I have yet to see one from you that so clearly puts Luck ahead of Russ.
Passer rating is the combination of all passing stats into one, that's what they all are, statskobebryant":2ui3ilu2 said:Kolsteseahawks":2ui3ilu2 said:Look at my previous replies, passer rating is not a good barometer for measuring the talent of a QB, and Brady is older now and not as good as he used to be, luck has passed him upkobebryant":2ui3ilu2 said:Kolsteseahawks":2ui3ilu2 said:Based on the logic everyone is using, nick Foles is the best QB in the league
Nope. Body of work isn't big enough.
But Luck's isn't big enough to put him ahead of Brady; especially when considering that his career QB rating is slightly lower than David Garrard's.
Look at the resume objectively, take Luck's name and draft position off, and it is merely decent-to-good.
Fair enough, lets remove passer rating from the debate.
Then what logic do you suggest we use in the Wilson-Luck debate?
Should we use objective evidence in the form of factual statistics like TDs, turnovers, completion %, yards per attempt, yardage (favors Luck), wins, playoff performance and championships?
Or should we use subjective opinion such as "I think..." , "I see..." and "I feel.." That is entirely non-scientific and no way to argue a point.
Kolsteseahawks":2s771b0p said:Passer rating is the combination of *select passing stats into one, *which can still be very misleading, that's what they all are, stats
Luck's arm talent is far superior to wilson, he has a much better pocket presence than Wilson and has just as much mobility as him but is better with his pocket movement, luck can do everything wilson does, Wilson can't to everything luck does, luck has no limitations at all, he can do anything you ask him toSpounge84":1pr8wiwz said:Kolsteseahawks":1pr8wiwz said:Look at my previous replies, passer rating is not a good barometer for measuring the talent of a QB, and Brady is older now and not as good as he used to be, luck has passed him upkobebryant":1pr8wiwz said:Kolsteseahawks":1pr8wiwz said:Based on the logic everyone is using, nick Foles is the best QB in the league
Nope. Body of work isn't big enough.
But Luck's isn't big enough to put him ahead of Brady; especially when considering that his career QB rating is slightly lower than David Garrard's.
Look at the resume objectively, take Luck's name and draft position off, and it is merely decent-to-good.
So what would be a good way to evaluate these players? Because I have yet to see one from you that so clearly puts Luck ahead of Russ.