The Outfield":19kw9ovq said:washmont":19kw9ovq said:I'd say resign Tate, let Rice go and get Decker, draft ASJ as the future replacement for Miller
Re-sign you mean?
Grammar Nazi
The Outfield":19kw9ovq said:washmont":19kw9ovq said:I'd say resign Tate, let Rice go and get Decker, draft ASJ as the future replacement for Miller
Re-sign you mean?
washmont":1lf4fb69 said:The Outfield":1lf4fb69 said:washmont":1lf4fb69 said:I'd say resign Tate, let Rice go and get Decker, draft ASJ as the future replacement for Miller
Re-sign you mean?
Grammar Nazi
SoHo9erFan":2r0i1u5t said:question is, can you guys afford Tate?? hate to brake it to you guys, but the salary cap is going to start to hurt you
Wenhawk":176evins said:Got to remember we are likely to cut Rice and Clemons saving about 12mil
Popeyejones":2kzxmqph said:Wenhawk":2kzxmqph said:Got to remember we are likely to cut Rice and Clemons saving about 12mil
If they cut both, but if they're also likely to resign Thomas and Sherman, that will be costing about 25-30 million.
Rice is guaranteed to be gone IMO, but if they can keep Clemons or Bennett, Clemons is the most likely one to stay I think, as he'll be on the last year of his deal and then can be cleared out for Wilson's payday (the same isn't true of Bennett, as he'll require a new, multi-year deal). They have an out that allows them to cut Percy Harvin which would save 11 million on the cap next year and that MIGHT allow for the resigning of Tate, but that would be a pretty big move if they make it.
EverydayImRusselin":bp2gc9jb said:Your estimate of Thomas/Sherman is wrong. Thomas will get ~$10m and Sherman will get ~$12m.
Popeyejones":1r2mgj64 said:EverydayImRusselin":1r2mgj64 said:Your estimate of Thomas/Sherman is wrong. Thomas will get ~$10m and Sherman will get ~$12m.
You're of course free to disagree, but I'm not "wrong" about something that hasn't happened yet. I said 25-30 million. You're saying 22 million. I think my estimate is more accurate.
Here's why:
*You're saying Thomas will get about 10 million per. Last year as a 29 year old Goldson got 9 million per. Earl Thomas is a much superior player to Goldson (which everyone agrees about), and he's also 24 years old. Goldson is an inferior player who had peaked or just past his prime upon signing, whereas is Thomas is a superior player who has yet to enter what are thought to be his prime years. In my opinion, on the open market, for both of these reasons he will be offered a SIGNIFICANT amount more than Goldson. I'd guess in the range of 12 million.
*You're saying Richard Sherman will get about 12 million per. Two years ago as a 28 year old Cortland Finnegan got 12 million per (I'm leaving out Revis because his contract has no bonus, he was coming off a major injury, etc. -- it's just a goofy contract and an atypical situation). Richard Sherman is MUCH superior player to Cortland Finnegan, and is also 25. Finnegan was also toward the tail end of his prime when he signed his deal, and Sherman will be on the front end of his prime. Sherman is a much, much better player, and a younger one to boot. Expecting him to get the same contract as Finnegan is pretty crazy. I think we can expect him to get 14-15 million per.
Combined, I think we're talking 26-27 million, right in the sweet spot of the 25-30 rough range I gave.
If you disagree and would like to try convince me why Thomas will only make what Goldson made and Sherman will only make what Finnegan made I'm all ears*, but I'm certainly not "wrong" about something we're both projecting, and to be honest, I think I'm being pretty conservative in my expectations.
*(maybe you think Thomas and Sherman are both worse players than Goldson and Finnegan? You think the market prefers players closer to 30 than 25 year old All Pros? I really don't know).
SoHo9erFan":3d3h53kq said:question is, can you guys afford Tate?? hate to brake it to you guys, but the salary cap is going to start to hurt you
EverydayImRusselin":3jaoqm64 said:It's all speculation of course, but I don't think they are going to spend $30M+ on the secondary alone. Schneider is a very good GM and I'm sure he realizes that spending 11m on Percy, 12m on Thomas, 15m on Sherman and then the inevitable 20m on Wilson is a surefire way to lose the success they've had. That's almost half the salary cap on 4 players.
Marvin49":2w59exuh said:Tate has been better for you guys than I ever would have thought.
I wouldn't touch Decker with a 10 foot pole. That's all Manning.
Aside from being a stupid move imo, cutting Percy is not a viable option because doing so after this year would result in a $9.6M cap hit in 2014 due to his "dead money".Popeyejones":1u8nan2i said:Wenhawk":1u8nan2i said:They have an out that allows them to cut Percy Harvin which would save 11 million on the cap next year and that MIGHT allow for the resigning of Tate, but that would be a pretty big move if they make it.
onanygivensunday":141e630b said:Aside from being a stupid move imo, cutting Percy is not a viable option because doing so after this year would result in a $9.6M cap hit in 2014 due to his "dead money".Popeyejones":141e630b said:Wenhawk":141e630b said:They have an out that allows them to cut Percy Harvin which would save 11 million on the cap next year and that MIGHT allow for the resigning of Tate, but that would be a pretty big move if they make it.
link to Harvin's cap hits... http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seah ... cy-harvin/
Wenhawk":24qxjdnc said:Both will take less to stay in seattle.