New Dion Jordan Injury

Pete just said at practice that Jordan's going to be out "a while."

So not only starting on the PUP list, but he has a stresser in the opposite leg he had the knee surgery on before. Not good, and exactly what we didn't need if we want any sort of a pass rush this year.

This is exactly the problem with Jordan, and always has been.

Our pass rush is a major concern.

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On the other hand, it's still early in camp, and I'm high on Rasheem Green and Marcus Smith. Clark should be back soon.

Awful news.

Smith also sat out today with a minor hamstring issue.

hawknation2018":30o7pk1x said:

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On the other hand, it's still early in camp, and I'm high on Rasheem Green and Marcus Smith. Clark should be back soon.

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I like your optimism, but for any D-line to be dangerous you need AT LEAST two, if not three good pass rushers. If Jordan can't go and Smith and Green are just rotation bodies....................... Clark better get used to being double and triple teamed all year.

The chain effect is we also have a very young defensive backfield that desperately needs the line to play well so they're not expected to follow receivers for 6-7 seconds a snap.

I can see us grabbing a Cliff Avril/experienced player type signing late in preseason at this rate.

Sgt. Largent":2kozh293 said:

hawknation2018":2kozh293 said:

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On the other hand, it's still early in camp, and I'm high on Rasheem Green and Marcus Smith. Clark should be back soon.

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I like your optimism, but for any D-line to be dangerous you need AT LEAST two, if not three good pass rushers. If Jordan can't go and Smith and Green are just rotation bodies....................... Clark better get used to being double and triple teamed all year.

The chain effect is we also have a very young defensive backfield that desperately needs the line to play well so they're not expected to follow receivers for 6-7 seconds a snap.

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Smith and Green are talented players, particularly Green's combo of power, length, and speed.

They could also go with a Red Bryant-sized 5T with Shamar Stephen playing outside or even Tom Johnson. If Jarran Reed, Naz Jones, and Poona Ford excel inside, that could open up an opportunity for Stephen or Johnson to play outside. I also haven't heard much about Quinton Jefferson, who has flashed at 5T in the past. There have been some good reports on Branden Jackson lately.

Clark, Reed, Naz Jones, Tom Johnson, Green, Stephen, Smith, and possibly Jefferson or Jackson.

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Disappointing.

Pulling for the guy.

Glasgow Seahawk":1sdrccci said:

I can see us grabbing a Cliff Avril/experienced player type signing late in preseason at this rate.

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They asked him if he would be willing to come back while he was on the air with his show today. He actually hesitated for a minute and sounded like he would consider it.

hawknation2018":3r842qwb said:

Clark, Reed, Naz Jones, Tom Johnson, Green, Stephen, Smith, and possibly Jefferson or Jackson.

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That rotation isn't striking fear into any team on our schedule.

Obviously any of these players has the ability to step up and play well, but on paper this is the worst D-line we've had under Pete.

Sgt. Largent":ktitfoyc said:

Pete just said at practice that Jordan's going to be out "a while."

So not only starting on the PUP list, but he has a stresser in the opposite leg he had the knee surgery on before. Not good, and exactly what we didn't need if we want any sort of a pass rush this year.

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...if only you had drafted the kid with the highest pass rush efficiency in all of college football last year.


Oh wait... 8)

FinNasty":109v2zcu said:

Sgt. Largent":109v2zcu said:

Pete just said at practice that Jordan's going to be out "a while."

So not only starting on the PUP list, but he has a stresser in the opposite leg he had the knee surgery on before. Not good, and exactly what we didn't need if we want any sort of a pass rush this year.

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...if only you had drafted the kid with the highest pass rush efficiency in all of college football last year.


Oh wait... 8)

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Too soon.

Disappointed, but was expecting this. When/if he comes back from this, it'll be something else.

This is the same situation at Prosise.

Hate to be so negative about it, such a bummer. :|

Sgt. Largent":2agd0tdo said:

hawknation2018":2agd0tdo said:

Clark, Reed, Naz Jones, Tom Johnson, Green, Stephen, Smith, and possibly Jefferson or Jackson.

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That rotation isn't striking fear into any team on our schedule.

Obviously any of these players has the ability to step up and play well, but on paper this is the worst D-line we've had under Pete.

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I think the DL was weaker from 2010-12. Clark is better than Chris Clemons.

hawknation2018":36kx011i said:

Sgt. Largent":36kx011i said:

hawknation2018":36kx011i said:

Clark, Reed, Naz Jones, Tom Johnson, Green, Stephen, Smith, and possibly Jefferson or Jackson.

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That rotation isn't striking fear into any team on our schedule.

Obviously any of these players has the ability to step up and play well, but on paper this is the worst D-line we've had under Pete.

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I think the DL was weaker from 2010-12. Clark is better than Chris Clemons.

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We'll see, at least by 2011 we had some dependable vets and depth while our young DB's and LB's kicked ass, with guys like Mebane, Clemons, McDonald and Branch.

Again, this is not so much an indictment on our young line with some potential, it's about being thin and shaky at BOTH the D-line and defensive backfield. You can sometimes get away with one if the other is above average, but both shaky? No.

Through hours of tedious work, Chris calculated the top 100 pass-rush-disruption percentages in college football from 2017. This data covers pressures (sacks, hits and hurries) per pass rush snaps. Here is a list of the top 10.

Player Pass Rush Efficiency
Shaquem Griffin (UCF) 21.6%
Brian Womac (RICE) 21.3%
Marcus Davenport (UTSA) 20.3%
Jeff Holland (Auburn) 19.5%
Easy Anyama (Texas State) 18.1%
Lorenzo Carter (Georgia) 17.7%
Justin Lawler (Southern Methodist) 16.8%
Ja’Von Rolland-Jones (Arkansas State) 16.7%
Arden Key (LSU) 16.5%
Sam Hubbard (Ohio State) 16.3%

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https://www.lockedondolphins.com/dolphi ... m-griffin/

Let's see what happens.

Maybe he can come back after missing a few games if we can get him back before that murder's row run we have after the Detroit game? That would be great.

Griffin being able to be another speed rusher on obvious passing downs is going to help, maybe he can play a Bruce Irvin type role there.

Reed is supposedly turning into a better pass rusher and I know we were going to be worse losing some of the pieces we did regardless.

But I think pinning Jordan as another Procise is a bit premature.

hawknation2018":2hmzivze said:

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That didn't sound as bad, but Jordan has been fragile in mental toughness, resulting in any setback blowing into something bigger. He has been his own worst enemy.