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Tyron Smith is playing pretty damn hurt this year so that's an unfair comparison. He's also an LT, not RT. Ifedi is fine as a player, the flags are unacceptable and way too frequent. Both can be true.
adeltaY":1zjl203r said:Tyron Smith is playing pretty damn hurt this year so that's an unfair comparison. He's also an LT, not RT. Ifedi is fine as a player, the flags are unacceptable and way too frequent. Both can be true.
Shanegotyou11":19zx13oz said:Jimjones0384":19zx13oz said:I read a tweet, can't find it now though, that most of the top penalized players are first and second year linemen, majority tackles. Garrett Bowels is second, and only two behind the leader, Ifedi. Not that some or a lot of his penalties aren't stupid, but these young linemen are facing talent on a weekly basis, the likes of which haven't been seen. Not an excuse for him, but he is hardly an isolated case.
Pocic's strength is what will keep him from the tackle spot, for now. The big knock on him coming out of college was his lack of strength, and it shows up on film.
Yea I saw that tweet too. The stats I provided of top tackles also struggled in their early years. Actually gave up triple the sacks ifedi has. I mean compare him to bolles(96 yds of flags and 11.5 sacks allowed)
But it doesn't help the ppl who want ifedi as a bust. I just provided the stats of tackles and it got ignored.
Shanegotyou11":10q1gew5 said:Jimjones0384":10q1gew5 said:I read a tweet, can't find it now though, that most of the top penalized players are first and second year linemen, majority tackles. Garrett Bowels is second, and only two behind the leader, Ifedi. Not that some or a lot of his penalties aren't stupid, but these young linemen are facing talent on a weekly basis, the likes of which haven't been seen. Not an excuse for him, but he is hardly an isolated case.
Pocic's strength is what will keep him from the tackle spot, for now. The big knock on him coming out of college was his lack of strength, and it shows up on film.
Yea I saw that tweet too. The stats I provided of top tackles also struggled in their early years. Actually gave up triple the sacks ifedi has. I mean compare him to bolles(96 yds of flags and 11.5 sacks allowed)
But it doesn't help the ppl who want ifedi as a bust. I just provided the stats of tackles and it got ignored.
pittpnthrs":mw1pnic3 said:Yeah, but the obvious will be lost because the new found stats fit his narrative. Lets not take into account the other tackles QB, receiver route trees, etc,,,. Ifedi constantly gets destroyed and no stats can cover that up regardless if it results in a sack or not.
pittpnthrs":rgi22vf0 said:adeltaY":rgi22vf0 said:Tyron Smith is playing pretty damn hurt this year so that's an unfair comparison. He's also an LT, not RT. Ifedi is fine as a player, the flags are unacceptable and way too frequent. Both can be true.
Yeah, but the obvious will be lost because the new found stats fit his narrative. Lets not take into account the other tackles QB, receiver route trees, etc,,,. Ifedi constantly gets destroyed and no stats can cover that up regardless if it results in a sack or not.
Jimjones0384":t0flusm8 said:Shanegotyou11":t0flusm8 said:Jimjones0384":t0flusm8 said:I read a tweet, can't find it now though, that most of the top penalized players are first and second year linemen, majority tackles. Garrett Bowels is second, and only two behind the leader, Ifedi. Not that some or a lot of his penalties aren't stupid, but these young linemen are facing talent on a weekly basis, the likes of which haven't been seen. Not an excuse for him, but he is hardly an isolated case.
Pocic's strength is what will keep him from the tackle spot, for now. The big knock on him coming out of college was his lack of strength, and it shows up on film.
Yea I saw that tweet too. The stats I provided of top tackles also struggled in their early years. Actually gave up triple the sacks ifedi has. I mean compare him to bolles(96 yds of flags and 11.5 sacks allowed)
But it doesn't help the ppl who want ifedi as a bust. I just provided the stats of tackles and it got ignored.
I hear ya. Go Hawks!
(Edit) thanks for the stats, BTW.
adeltaY":273ieb8e said:Shanegotyou11":273ieb8e said:Jimjones0384":273ieb8e said:I read a tweet, can't find it now though, that most of the top penalized players are first and second year linemen, majority tackles. Garrett Bowels is second, and only two behind the leader, Ifedi. Not that some or a lot of his penalties aren't stupid, but these young linemen are facing talent on a weekly basis, the likes of which haven't been seen. Not an excuse for him, but he is hardly an isolated case.
Pocic's strength is what will keep him from the tackle spot, for now. The big knock on him coming out of college was his lack of strength, and it shows up on film.
Yea I saw that tweet too. The stats I provided of top tackles also struggled in their early years. Actually gave up triple the sacks ifedi has. I mean compare him to bolles(96 yds of flags and 11.5 sacks allowed)
But it doesn't help the ppl who want ifedi as a bust. I just provided the stats of tackles and it got ignored.
Bolles has 7.5 sacks allowed according to WaPo sports, not 11.5. Penalty yards are spot on. He's also blocking for some truly awful QBs in Simon, Lynch, and Osweiler. Also, AFC West so he has to go up against Bosa/Ingram, Houston, and Mack. Could mean he has a harder job than Ifedi.
hawkfan68":3nqnvsdp said:Who can take a pro bowler and teach him to play like poo....Tom Cable can.